Mark LaRosa is the founder of QuotaCrush. Started as a blog on sales techniques for start-ups, QuotaCrush now provides outsourced sales consulting and services to several start-ups, incubators, and universities. Mark also plays an active, key role at Angelsoft, where he was also previously the VP, Sales.  Angelsoft provides software that helps angel and venture capital investors manage their investments.

In Part 2, Mark talks about why its never too early for startups to think about sales, how most entrepreneurs underestimate the need for sales teams because they think their products will sell themselves and the amount of client out there that want to buy from another human being.

Sean: You’re consulting for startups on sales and building out sales teams or sales organization or just trying to get the first deal in the door…

Mark: Right.

Sean: …probably more typically… What advice would you give, you know, to a couple of, typically, engineer guys, you know, starting their internet company in their garage about when to think about sales and how to think about it?

Mark: The bottom line is it’s never too early to think about sales.  The Twitter’s of the world where there’s a product that figures out the sales strategy later on is very, very, very rare.  You’re not probably get money and you’re not going to really succeed unless you’re really starting to think about that anybody really wants this product, anybody really needs this product. And so you need to be thinking about that real early on. And it is very important because you have to create something that somebody wants to buy… If nobody wants to buy you, I would say, by definition, you don’t really have a business. So you need to figure out what that is. And you need to not be afraid to be out there talking with prospects talking to potential customers to basically figure out what that product is. Now your ultimate vision may be here (gestures), and you may have to take a diversion over here (gestures) before you get to here (gestures), but getting the product over here that funds, the vision – the ultimate vision – is a way better path than just trying to go blindly out and build something that you think the people are going to come to because that’s whatever you see as the vision. When I talk to a lot of these very, very smart engineers that are building companies, sometimes there is a tendency to say, ”No, but this is a vision. I’m changing the world,” which is great, but you need to think about how you’re going to get it into people’s hands and how they are going to accept it and how you’re going to bring them along with you in your vision and you’re going to sell things along the way.

Sean: Last question: you’ve seen a lot of these startups, and so I’m thinking you’ve seen enough to have some statistical relevance… as a percentage, how many are building a product that they think will just be self serve, meaning people will just come to the site to buy it, versus those who kind of think and understand that they’re going to have to go out and sell it?

Mark: I think that there’s a very large percentage of people that don’t appreciate the amount of people-effort there is in sales and how much there has to be, and people ultimately buy from people. And some of that’s marketing, you could argue that, you know, but you’re not going to be able to do it with just SEO. The companies that are going to do it with just “Hey, it’s going to be SEO and I’m going to put a couple of ads out there, I’m going to get an ad on TechCrunch and next thing I know millions of people are going to come to my door,” again, that’s very, very rare. There’s really a large people-to-people relationship thing that happens, and as a result of that sales actually becomes even more critical to your business because as technology costs go down, as development costs go down, sales becomes a larger and larger and larger percentage and it has to become a larger and larger and larger percentage of your budget. So you’re going to be hiring people and making large decisions on who you’re paying and how you’re paying them and where they’re travelling to and all of that. That becomes a very large percentage of the money that you’re going to raise from whatever channel and so, therefore, it’s very important.  Back to your original question, you know, there’s still a big amount of people buy for people. They don’t just buy blindly off of websites, for the most part.

Sean: I think what people don’t get is: your product might be the best product ever, but there’s so much noise that have to convince someone to pay attention long enough to figure it out.

Mark: Yeah. I had a conversation with a startup yesterday, and we were discussing, and he was explaining to me, “But you don’t understand, this is the way kids think, and that’s why this is going to be a smart buy for these customers.” And I said, “Yes, I understand that and I probably agree with you that you’ve got something new and innovative that advertisers would want. However, you’re going to talk to that guy, and sitting ac77ross the table he’s going to say ‘I have to report to my boss and tell him why we’re taking money away from this ad campaign and giving it to you, and you have no metrics to prove your vision. I have to just jump off this ledge with you.’” And that’s going to be a tough sale. So I said, “I’m not saying that I don’t believe you, but that’s going to be a tough sale.” So how do you get the product, how do you get the deals that you strike so that you can bring that person to that vision with you? And that’s where a really good sales guy comes in and that’s where you’re going to need those people that can figure out how to structure those deals to get people to have your vision until you get to that point where people just look at you and say, “Oh, yeah, it makes total sense. Of course I would buy that because I can see the return.”

Sean: Absolutely. Mark we’re out of time, but thanks for coming.

Mark: Thank You.